tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8275076716116085322.post5872943585743386363..comments2023-07-12T10:35:51.132-05:00Comments on This Spinsters Point of View: Separate But Equal MarriageSpinsterpovhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07301768335459719164noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8275076716116085322.post-61421169012096442432009-12-08T12:46:45.597-06:002009-12-08T12:46:45.597-06:00Your idea to define them all as civil unions legal...Your idea to define them all as civil unions legally and leave the marriage definition to religious issues is a good one. As I stated above my objections have nothing to do with the rights, I agree that the unions should have the same rights, but the use of the word marriage. If they were all civil unions first and the religious name for it second, it would answer many of the concerns of the masses. Great idea!Spinsterpovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07301768335459719164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8275076716116085322.post-5773939120831093242009-12-08T12:38:51.202-06:002009-12-08T12:38:51.202-06:00Hey Gal, I think you made good points and I'm ...Hey Gal, I think you made good points and I'm sorry some of us gay folk are so vehement. It's a very sensitive subject in the way that our families are not given the same protections and recognition as our straight friends. We have to concoct complex legal wranglings to approximate what a marriage license accomplishes. Even then, those arrangements can be contested in court in the event of death of a partner. Perhaps, it would be better to move incrementally, time will only tell.<br /><br />In this country, Marriage is a civil right supported by the government with benefits/responsibilities that permeate throughout state and federal levels. I totally disagree with DOMA as well as the ban that states have instituted by popular vote. Civil rights should never be decided by "majority" rule. It should be done by the legislature process and be allowed to be challenged/affirmed by the legal process. <br /><br />I totally respect where you are coming from but politely disagree that we are asking to redefine marriage from our point of view. I do understand your viewpoint about marriage. Of course that's natural for you. I don't mean that in any way condescending. My opinion on the matter is Civil Unions for all and call it what you want in church or at home. That allows churches to still stay true to their doctrines and keep tax exempt status and provides the same legal protections for both hetero's and homo's alike. I wouldn't want to be married in a church that didn't recognize my union anyway. <br />BTW - If we were married, we'd be husbands both. <br /><br />Keep up the great dialogue, even if we don't agree, we can still continue talking!<br />JasonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8275076716116085322.post-22041870335997667092009-07-07T08:57:01.856-05:002009-07-07T08:57:01.856-05:00I'm sorry you feel that way. It is not intend...I'm sorry you feel that way. It is not intended as condescention. And I don't assume my readers need to be educated, I assume they are educated.Spinsterpovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07301768335459719164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8275076716116085322.post-68378844385323832142009-07-07T08:28:46.229-05:002009-07-07T08:28:46.229-05:00again, Why do you spreak in such a condescending a...again, Why do you spreak in such a condescending and righteous manner? your blogs are written as though you are assuming all of your readers need to be educated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8275076716116085322.post-18663233091413975232009-07-06T21:50:22.008-05:002009-07-06T21:50:22.008-05:00Thanks. I'd been avoiding it like the plague ...Thanks. I'd been avoiding it like the plague because I have a lot of gay friends. My friend and I were having a pretty good debate but then he pulled in some other people. And of them is where I got the quote. That guy made an awful lot of assumptions about me based on my stance. I appreciate a supportive comment. Thanks again.Spinsterpovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07301768335459719164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8275076716116085322.post-54892238336773010922009-07-06T21:39:36.670-05:002009-07-06T21:39:36.670-05:00Spinster - I couldn't have said it better myse...Spinster - I couldn't have said it better myself. Your logic is not effed up at all and I commend you for being able to have this type of discussion with your gay friends. Too many people aren't able to do that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8275076716116085322.post-13477277221516087482009-07-06T19:53:36.439-05:002009-07-06T19:53:36.439-05:00Thank you, I will. It would have been nice though...Thank you, I will. It would have been nice though to show how my logic was effed up instead of just attacking me personally. But I guess a debate on logic was too much to ask. Although as I saw in an earlier discussion elsewhere that my logic is inherintly flawed since it comes to the worng conclusion.Spinsterpovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07301768335459719164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8275076716116085322.post-45109764101116609502009-07-06T19:40:31.964-05:002009-07-06T19:40:31.964-05:00Your way of thinking is totally effed up, why do y...Your way of thinking is totally effed up, why do you speak in such a condescending and righteous manner. This explains your spinster title,you should be grateful you are not gay because any real woman would not marry you, let alone a straight man.Enjoy the lonliness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com